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Do we really want to get into another unnecessary war which we will lose? Only this time, Australia will be a target.12-12 19:12:10.140 18025-18025/.sfbdemo D/ViewRootImpl: ViewPostImeInputStage processPointer 0ġ2-12 19:12:10.290 18025-18025/.sfbdemo D/ViewRootImpl: ViewPostImeInputStage processPointer 1ġ2-12 19:12:10.300 18025-18025/.sfbdemo I/SFB: INFO UTILITIES CBasePersistableComponent.cpp:238 Storing 1 out-of-sync components took 5msġ2-12 19:12:10.305 18025-18025/.sfbdemo I/SFB: INFO APPLICATION CClientTelemetryProvider.cpp:394 Sending telemetry to ARIA for type SignInCreateApplicationEnd:ġ2-12 19:12:10.315 18025-18025/.sfbdemo I/SFB: INFO APPLICATION CClientTelemetryProvider.cpp:394 Sending telemetry to ARIA for type Heartbeat:ġ2-12 19:12:10.330 18025-18025/.sfbdemo I/SFB: INFO UTILITIES CBasePersistableComponent.cpp:238 Storing 1 out-of-sync components took 4msġ2-12 19:12:10.335 18025-18025/.sfbdemo I/SFB: INFO UTILITIES CBasePersistableComponent.cpp:238 Storing 1 out-of-sync components took 3msġ2-12 19:12:10.340 18025-18025/.sfbdemo I/SFB: INFO UTILITIES CBasePersistableComponent.cpp:238 Storing 1 out-of-sync components took 2msġ2-12 19:12:10.340 18025-18025/.sfbdemo I/SFB: INFO APPLICATION CUcwaAppSession.cpp:1049 CUcwaAppSession canceling all requestsġ2-12 19:12:10.340 18025-18025/.sfbdemo I/SFB: INFO APPLICATION CUcwaAutoDiscoveryServiceRetrialWrapper.cpp:544 Timer cancelled. The Australian public has a right to come out from under the mushrooms and Parliament needs to have a thorough public debate. Australian submarine purchases are about supporting the USA financially and militarily. The US is not interested in upholding democracy in Taiwan but in protecting its primacy and commercial interests in Taiwan. Those failures were not about democracy versus autocracy and, on the contrary, the US and Australian intervention in Vietnam was to prevent a democratic election taking place. We have learned nothing from the experience of Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Under present circumstances he is right and it is hard to see how the present government could opt out no matter how much they blather on about sovereignty. He does not see it possible for us to avoid joining the USA in a stoush with China.

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Love him or hate him, Peter Dutton has at least stated his view publicly and clearly. So far, we have had nothing but vague, unsupported claims and words from the government about just how committed we are. If this is not the case, we do not have sovereignty. He must be asked to state clearly and publicly that should the USA go to war with China Australia will not necessarily follow but could remain neutral. Our prime minister declares firmly that Australian sovereignty will be maintained in the new defence arrangements.









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